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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: A train is a train</title>
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      <author>Jim Grigsby</author>
      <description><![CDATA[To movie people if it is on rails and blows steam it is a train, and that is all that matters.  There have been two &quot;history&quot; segments filmed on the Sumpter Valley.  One of them was for a PBS series on the Chinese in America (building the transcontinental railroad) and the other was for a History Channel program on Jesse James.  Not only was the equipment wrong but so was the gauge.  It didn't matter much on the Jesse James part though.  If you looked away from your TV for a moment you would have missed it.  And this took two days of filming.

It does help pay the bills though.]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: SVRy Coach 20 Repairs</title>
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      <author>AZfarmer</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Taylor -

Interesting pics of the restoration on the SVRy website. 

Curious as to the source for the replacement oak end beams.  Are these White Oak?  Also, did your shop do the shaping/fabrication?  We need to obtain similar oak beams for the C&amp;S 1008 in the near future. 

Thanks]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: 494 at the Durango turntable</title>
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      <author>Casey Akin</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I was born 20 years later, to the date!!!

Casey]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:48:37 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: More Trainless Train pictures</title>
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      <author>guymonmd</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[attachment 17348 DSC09604.JPG]
Animas River Canyon.
Feb 3 2012.

The D&amp;S ROW is on the Left.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:39:09 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: 463 &amp; 2nd Annual Geology Train</title>
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      <author>JohnM</author>
      <description><![CDATA[This is a treat of a lifetime.  On last year's trip the geologists were very helpful and described the many interesting features along the ride.  We were able to disembark and study the different formations and how they were formed.  It's a narrow gauge classroom with a country wide view.  It can't get better than this!

I really recommend this trip.

John]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:34:07 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Winter ride on the D&amp;S 2</title>
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      <author>guymonmd</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The gon was not crowded for most of the trip.  There were a few more people out there on the high line area.
Riding in winter has several advantages.  The train is less crowded, the tickets are less expensive, and the trip is shorter which is good for the kids.
You don't get to see the upper portion of the line, but it is a great trip.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:26:15 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Garratt Locomotives</title>
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      <author>Trevor Heath</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The latter.....both engine units are (supposed to be) identical at least from a reciprocating engine point of view.

TH]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: 494 at the Durango turntable</title>
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      <author>Greg Scholl</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Well we had better find the freight logs....where is that crew guy when you need him.

I am pretty sure my dad and I shot 494 and 495 in 1961.  This is what I remember---we disagreed with Earl's date of 1961 for 495.  So either my shot is 1960, or the 495 lasted longer than Earl's date.

One of these days I need to find these old B&amp;W prints and have a go at scanning the negs if they are still with the prints.

Thanks for the notes Earl.
Greg]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:53:40 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Chama engineer in an 1895 ad</title>
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      <author>Jim Grigsby</author>
      <description><![CDATA[2% &quot;active&quot; ingredients would be considerably higher than present day homeopathic medicines.  Anyway, the 20% alcohol would probably make you forget your ailments.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:46:28 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] 463 &amp; 2nd Annual Geology Train</title>
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      <author>Roger Hogan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[YUP!!!!! this is going to be big time fun. All participants will be able to disembark to walk through Rock Tunnel and then have the opportunity to photograph this historic locomotive as she emerges from the tunnel!

[url=http://www.cumbrestoltec.com/geologytrainexcursion]For additional information[/url]]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:43:00 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Chama engineer in an 1895 ad</title>
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      <author>bcp</author>
      <description><![CDATA[From:
http://thequackdoctor.com/index.php/hoods-sarsaparilla/

Advertising pamphlets stated the mixture was “carefully prepared from Sarsaparilla, Dandelion, Mandrake, Dock, Pipsissewa, Juniper Berries, and other valuable vegetable remedies, in such a peculiar manner as to retain the full curative value of each ingredient used,” but analysis by the BMA, reported in Secret Remedies: What they cost and what they contain, showed that the mixture contained only  “2.0 parts of vegetable extract per 100 fluid parts.” Instead, its popularity might have been down to it being nearly 20% alcohol.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:30:39 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Winter ride on the D&amp;S 2</title>
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      <author>John Cole</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the great photos Mike.  It doesn't appear that you were very crowded on the gon that day.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:15:39 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: A pair of K-28's</title>
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      <author>CharlieMcCandless</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Looks like early to mid-1950s. The 473 is out of its Bumble Bee paint scheme and has its straight stack back.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:51:27 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Chama engineer in an 1895 ad</title>
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      <author>CharlieMcCandless</author>
      <description><![CDATA[He must has been one of the real old timers, coming in with the construction crews, or shortly thereafter. No wonder he was gone by 1924.
  I don't know if the CRRM has lists much older. With Kenton Forrest's illness, it might be a while before I get out there.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:48:42 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Chama engineer in an 1895 ad</title>
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      <author>CharlieMcCandless</author>
      <description><![CDATA[This was before A&amp;W (Allen and Wright) root beer. That came about in  1919.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:45:21 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Garratt Locomotives</title>
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      <author>S.B.A.</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello everyone, I have a question about the valve gear on a Garratt locomotive. Do the two units have different admission to the cylinder sets? Or are the die blocks of the expansion links set opposite of each other (forward unit in forward, read unit in reverse)? Thanks,
Sean]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:38:16 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: RGS 42 Smokebox Door</title>
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      <author>Tom Dittmer</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Wouldn't it be cool if somewhere in Central or South America there is a similiar Baldwin setting in the weeds with a proper Baldwin smoke box door?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:31:51 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Some Questions About Equipment</title>
      <link>http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,209695,209699#msg-209699</link>
      <author>bcp</author>
      <description><![CDATA[&quot;Reconnaissance Cars&quot; is kind of generic.  I used to hear it, in the 1940's,  applied to the Dodges only.


Ford Reconnaissance Cars Join The Army (1941) 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf5OBQpVRps

Dodge

http://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_wc6.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W46bH9iG6XU]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:17:07 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Winter ride on the D&amp;S 2</title>
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      <author>guymonmd</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Here are a few more
[attachment 17345 switchstand.jpg]
The switch at the Cascade wye.
[attachment 17346 allabroad3.jpg]
Sounding the whistle, ready to depart Cascade
[attachment 17347 durango1.jpg]
Here is a picture of me, my wife and daughter enjoying the open air car.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:11:48 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Winter ride on the D&amp;S</title>
      <link>http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,209697,209697#msg-209697</link>
      <author>guymonmd</author>
      <description><![CDATA[While many readers of this forum were dealing with a big snow day in Denver, I was enjoying my birthday in Durango riding the D&amp;S.
It was a beautiful sunny day with a few inches of fresh snow.
Have a few pictures to share.
[attachment 17340 allabroadsmall.JPG]
486 ready to depart Durango
[attachment 17341 train486.jpg]
The High Line
[attachment 17342 oldtraindkindof.jpg]
An old style on the high line.
[attachment 17343 ventstream.jpg]
Venting steam on the bridge.
[attachment 17344 fillingwater.jpg]
Taking on water.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:05:41 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: 491 in Antonito</title>
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      <author>JS Driver</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Took me a while to figure out what the shades of color is on the watertower. It is the octagon roofline, Duh. Neat picture.

Dan]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:22:36 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Some Questions About Equipment</title>
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      <author>george pearce</author>
      <description><![CDATA[In the book, &quot;Robert W. Richardson's Chasing the Narrow Gauge, Vol II&quot;, on p.70 he has printed a summary of the D&amp;RGW narrow gauge equipment on the roster as of January 1 1948. All the locomotives, freight cars, passenger cars, non-revenue equipment, and miscellaneous equipment are listed.

It's the miscellaneous equipment listings that has me curious.

It shows, for example, 2 motor inspection cars and 389 motor maintainance-of-way cars.Where did they keep 389 motor m-o-w cars? That seems like a lot of jiggers, pop-cars or whatever you call them down there, just for the narrow gauge lines.

It shows 5 station wagons, 8 sedans, 2 coupes, 2 &quot;Reconnaisance cars&quot; and 1 passenger bus. Where were all these vehicles kept? Who got to drive them, or have one assigned to his/her use? Were they all painted/lettered in a particular pattern? Any pictures of any of these vehicles out there? Anyone modelling the narrow gauge before 1948 will certainly want to see one of these. I would like to know what the bus was!

And what were those 2 &quot;Reconnaisance cars&quot;? Cars with radar-toting supervisors out to catch speeding engineers?]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: 494 at the Durango turntable</title>
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      <author>Earl</author>
      <description><![CDATA[494 was last used 8/3/62, It made 34 trips through Chama that year.

495 was last used 1/18/61.]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: 491 in Antonito</title>
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      <author>drgwk37</author>
      <description><![CDATA[What a great shot and a nice looking 491! Thanks Rich!

William
AkA drgwk37]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:32:42 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: 494 at the Durango turntable</title>
      <link>http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,209676,209692#msg-209692</link>
      <author>Rich Muth</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Greg: Here's what the DRGW.org website says:

Road: Denver &amp; Rio Grande Western 	Road #: 494
From: 1928 	To: 1962 	Class: K37 	Gauge: N
Acquired: Used 	Name:
Builder: Baldwin, # 20748, 1908 	Wt: 187250 	Tract. Eff.: 37100
Wheel Arr.: 2-8-2 	Cylinders: 20x24 	Drivers: 44.00
Disposition: Retired 1962, to C&amp;TS 1970

  Unfortunately, it isn't more specific about the exact date.

   Rich]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: 494 at the Durango turntable</title>
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      <author>drgwk37</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I believe they both last ran in 1962 Greg. The 498 took the 494's tender after it came out of the shops from the derailment near Cumbres in 1960. I'm sure Earl will get us all straightened out. 

Rich thanks for posting such a cool pic!  K-37..yeah!

William
AkA drgwk37]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: 494 at the Durango turntable</title>
      <link>http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,209676,209690#msg-209690</link>
      <author>Greg Scholl</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I thought the 494 and 495 both were retired at the end of 1961 or sometime in 1961.  Where's Earl?

I used to have a file around someplace with info(can't find it now) on when these engines made the last runs(years)...Anyone have that stuff??

Greg Scholl]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: Posting Delay, Once Again</title>
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      <author>Jimmy Blouch</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thank you all for your get well wishes and kind comments.

My wife and I both went to ER yesterday.  Both given antibiotics and feel somewhat better today.

I hope to get the postings back on track real soon.

Jimmy]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: recent upload at Channel Gothpapa:</title>
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      <author>gothpapa</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I'm surprised by your comment, not saying you are wrong, just don't remember it that way. I miss those HoJo's.  The fast food joints that have replaced them may be faster, but the ol' HoJo's were better (IMHO, anyway ;)).]]></description>
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      <title>[Narrow Gauge Discussion] Re: recent upload at Channel Gothpapa:</title>
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      <author>gothpapa</author>
      <description><![CDATA[...and Howard Johnson's was next best, right after Isaly's (see my post just above this one).]]></description>
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